tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-207940809631227645.post1244210908654073017..comments2021-02-03T22:47:48.381-08:00Comments on Angra Mainyu's blog: Another reply to Craig's metaethical argument (v 1.1.1)Angra Mainyuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16342860692268708455noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-207940809631227645.post-70840547272239950342016-03-11T13:26:10.212-08:002016-03-11T13:26:10.212-08:00Hi Fox in the Know, and thanks.
I think this dis...Hi Fox in the Know, and thanks. <br /><br />I think this discussion would be more suitable for a post <a href="http://angramainyusblog.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-reply-to-kalam-cosmological-argument.html" rel="nofollow">on the Kalam argument</a>, but briefly, Craig's position is that God cannot create infinitely many stars, galaxies, etc., but on the other hand, Craig does not say there is a maximum number n1 such that it's impossible that God creates more than n1 stars, and apparently accepts God possibly creates any arbitrary natural number of them. <br /><br />So, on his view, it seems that for any natural number n there is at least one possible world W(n) where there are at least n stars, but no possible world W where there are infinitely many stars.<br /><br />That seems to require that every possible world has a present time, else it seems there would be a possible world at which there are in total (i.e., including the future) infinitely many stars (or people, etc.). <br /><br />Craig does say that <i>if</i> it's possible that God creates an infinity (e.g., infinitely many stars), it's not one at a time, but all at once, regardless of whether he does so in time or as the first creation. But he argues against that possibility on the basis of the Hilbert Hotel arguments and similar ones, not arguments from finite addition. <br /><br />I don't think that the Hilbert Hotel argument (or similar ones) is persuasive at all. I addressed it <a href="http://angramainyusblog.blogspot.com.ar/2013/01/a-reply-to-kalam-cosmological-argument.html#Hilbert" rel="nofollow">in my reply to the KCA.</a>Angra Mainyuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16342860692268708455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-207940809631227645.post-57833651589966774372016-03-11T13:13:45.768-08:002016-03-11T13:13:45.768-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Angra Mainyuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16342860692268708455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-207940809631227645.post-67496768169990012632016-03-11T12:34:37.665-08:002016-03-11T12:34:37.665-08:00Hi I'm a big fan of your blog. It is in my opi...Hi I'm a big fan of your blog. It is in my opinion the best blog on these arguments available.<br /><br />I have a question regarding Craig and infinites. Something strange seems to arise for me at least with the notion of atemporal simultaneous causation and an all powerful God.<br /><br />Youpeak of nothing counter intuitive about an infinite number of galaxies.<br /><br />Presumably Craigs god could create atemporally an infinite number of stars, one for every natural number in one singular act of power.<br /><br /><br />In one sense Craig allows for one universe to be created atemporally- why not two though? Seems logically possible. Why not then three? And so on. This still takes no time at all. so there is no maximal limit there is potential infinity that could be created with no impediment.<br /><br />And yet Craig would say that once created there could 'always be one more'. So on one hand there seems no issue no logical limitation and yet Craig would not allow it.<br /><br />Does this mean there is at some atemporal state, a maximal limited number of stars god could create? Or a potential infinite that once actualised instantly becomes finite?<br /><br />I understand how creating in time Craig holds this problem off- there's only ever a potential infinite, because it takes time to create stars say naturally. But what if that potential infinite took no time at all?<br /><br />Any thoughts? Is this just a Tristam Shandy type scenario easily refuted?<br /><br />Thanks.Fox ITKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00279690931742754745noreply@blogger.com